A Discussion with Dr. Larry Ross, Lincoln University, Jefferson City, MO

I brought specific plates of drawings from Ramesses ll --plates that came from a book entitled, The Beit El-Wali Temple of Ramesses ll by Herbert Ricke, et al. and publised by the University of Chicago as part of its Nubian expedition series in 1967. The book has a number of plates that were taken from the temple before the water from the dam covered it up.

Dr. Ross befgan the conversation by stating that Ramesses ll created the monuments to show off his military strength. "You can take these depictions with a grain of sand because Ramesses is the one creating the monuments."

My argument was that every depiction in his temple shows the Nubians in a positive light--even the plate when they are retreating as in Plate 8. Other plates show his opposition as weak and cowardly--the Syrians, for example, are begging for surrender and some of them are jumping from the wall committing suicide. A Libyan captive is begging for his life (Plate 24) and other individuals are in equally subservient postures. The only two groups that actually face him are the Bedouin (but they are portrayed as fleeing) and the Nubians (who are also the opnly group recovering their injured and dead).

Granted propaganda is written all over the stellas and other places in other places calling the Nubians (or Kush) cowards and other negative statements, but if you look closely at Plate 8 (and I'll try to get a copy of it on this blog so you can see it too), you will see bravery and even his own two favored sons (due to their placement next to their father) who are obviously of Nubian blood.

Furthermore, the one plate that shows Ramesses ll smiting a Nubian shows a very self assured man ready to die and not scared to die in battle (Plate 27).

"In my studies, I go deeper than what the victor has said or done as written on monuments honoring him," Dr. Ross replied. "The Nubians were very strong and courageous and they would not be afraid of death."

I conclude from the plates that the Nubians were strong, courageous and not afraid of death. Ramesses ll had a lot of respect for them. In the plates taken from the walls of the temple honoring him, he shows his respect. The Nubians were defeated, but they faced him in battle. When he executed a Nubian, he presented the individual as a man who "dies well" unlike any of the others he is depicted as slaying.

This brings me to the following conjecture: The negative propaganda written about the Nubians (or Kush) was written to give the army of Ramesses ll more confidence--a mental strategy, if you will, because he understood and admired the Nubians and knew what they could do. This was his way of empowering his army to want to fight, fist, and secondly, to help them believe they were stronger and better than their opponents--psychology to get his army to believe in itself.

In other words, the propaganda was really complimentary to the Nubians (Kush).

Dr. Ross and I will continue this dialog.